X Block in Knife Fighting

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This is some stuff I got from a park ranger in Balboa Park, about a different approach to an often horribly taught technique.

18 thoughts on “X Block in Knife Fighting

  1. Wesley Lammay says:

    Fiore and Meyer both teach this concept, reinforcing the parry is indeed important in this type of attack, the other important ingredient is sensitivity to pressure in the “bind” created at the instant of contact. What you follow up with is determined by the pressure you experience. Nice informative post thank you you might be saving someone’s life. God bless.

  2. Bart Stratton says:

    The block you are doing with the knife looks like an incorrect version of a crossada parry from  eskrima.  The point is a parry is not a block. A parry passes and redirects force, a block opposes force. The problem with a block is that the blade will be drawn back resulting in a serious cut.  

  3. Ross Makoske says:

    I've actually got a weekly fencing mask and padded knife sparring group in the same backyard, and am a big advocate of fencing masks for weapon work. This video is from 2 years ago, which is right around when I began formally learning FMA, and it demonstrates some interesting stuff I learned from an interesting character, more than a "you should do this if someone does this" kind of video.

  4. sz332 says:

    Also using an x-block in a knife duel, would be pretty much a stupid idea. If you put up some fencing masks and knifes, you will quickly find out, that the least thing you want is the guy anywhere near to you. A thrust could be so really quick, that you have not much possibility even to see it, not to respond to it. This way we can learn the knife duel thing, however, it is important to notice, that a self-defense situation is different from a sparring one.

  5. sz332 says:

    Hello, just some comments. I think the x-block has it place, especially when someone stands pretty close to you, you cannot step back, and somehow you have to parry his strong upward thrust. The problem with a standard single handed block is that it may slip – like you demonstrated – and lead the knife into your ribs. This is prevented with the x-block, where the hand cannot "slip out". From the x-block i would suggest to headbutt the guy very hard, and then try to do any kind of disarms.

  6. Ross Makoske says:

    Yeah, but I'd add that the headbutt is also positioning your body so that you're pocketing away from the blade. The Dog Brothers use headbutts while doing 2 handed controls in their counter-knife stuff.

  7. Ross Makoske says:

    IMO your goal is to stun/shock upon contact, so without the knife you'll have to do something else to accomplish this. Headbutt, or block + strike the face. Without a knife it will also not disarm them so you'll probably want to control that arm. Honestly I don't prefer the X block for this.

  8. piaten says:

    Nice, This is probably the only useful way to apply a downward x-block in self defense! I can see a nice headbutt follow up option when you lock his knife arm under your arm, did you notice that too?

  9. Troy Naumu says:

    In FMA there is a block that looks like a x-block but it is really not called the roof block. the difference is that both hands do not arrive at the blocking point at the same time. one blocks as the other pushes away. as you said, some of the gunting methods are like that also

  10. Ross Makoske says:

    @naumutroi The stuff I was showing here were from a park ranger who used to show us stuff, and his background was in Sayoc, Apache knife and Bujinkan material. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was something he got from the Bujinkan.

    Yes, the X block style of movement is different than what's in the Filipino arts. It doesn't really make conceptual sense when adhering to basic principles. I see some similarities with certain guntings though in the FMA I study.

  11. Troy Naumu says:

    after 20 years in the martial arts studying weapons based martial arts i still dont like the x block. it is a iffy technique of limited use in empty hand but against a knife….unless you are a advanced practitioner with excellent speed and timing and technique I would advise against it being used against a knife because so much can go wrong. hat is why you do not see Filipino stylists who are master knife fighters use a x-block because it is not very effective in the modern day.

  12. Ross Makoske says:

    @juiceyfruit379 That actually isn't a BOB- it's an old tore up slam man base I found at a garage sale (they're black with blue padding on some areas). All of the blue padded parts have fallen off years ago, so basically I'm left with a hard plastic dummy.

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