Why Martial Arts Don’t Work • Martial Arts Journey

Many people believe that the martial art they are learning is enough to learn fighting and self defense, yet the truth is most martial arts don’t work the way they …

23 thoughts on “Why Martial Arts Don’t Work • Martial Arts Journey

  1. shadow boxer says:

    I have always liked martial arts, and yet have never had any real training .I learned how to fight by actually fighting as a gang member at 15 ,and in 15 battles I never lost one because I always attacked first when anyone threatened me .The martial arts have been commercialized for show, losing their real fighting heritage. A kick is a kick, a punch is a punch no matter what special technique you use. The methods are robotic and based on rules that don't apply in real fight, where people will use dirty methods or catch you by surprise or double team you. Even Miyamoto Mushashi said even in his time that most martial arts were only for show ,and not useful in real fight .

  2. horrible ni-cunt says:

    As we say in my land, you discovered warm water on this video. You learned the basic difference between martial arts and self defense. Martial arts are usefull IFFF you have common sense and learn the difference of fighting in the dojo and fighting in the streets. Raw, no rules and no one to save you.

  3. David Francis says:

    Often times a martial art will lend the appearance of "not working" when it is in fact merely not worked. In other words whether it works or doesn't is something that may only be proven in reality and never in theory or demonstration. I am advanced in Kung Fu San Soo aka Tsoi Li Ho Fut Hung. To "prove" its effectiveness is a grave thing since the technique is lethal combat and very little else. But there are other combat styles such as Krav Maga. I am not a wrestler or a grappler that is not my art nor can I defeat them on their own terms that's not the art. If you want that then train for it. In my experience there's very little difference as a practical matter. Do what you want and do it well. In combat or a lethal confrontation "age quod agis," do what you do. Figure out what suits you.

  4. guillepankeke says:

    i dont think you do aikido justice. I dont think its that a perfect martial art. But its not competitive and martial arts which are oriented to competition are way more practical. They just dont make a difference between ppl who attack and ppl who deffend themselves

  5. Kaleidolistic says:

    First, I respect your quest for "truth" in the martial arts, although I remain convinced that you're looking in the wrong place (styles and training methods). Here are a few "obnoxious" martial arts related beliefs that I have and you and your audience may feel free to comment on them:

    – I believe 70% of self defense is about the fierce willingness to defend yourself – I don't care how many styles and techniques you know, old or "modern". This is why you don't need martial arts to defend yourself – you need genuine self esteem and a commitment to survive at any cost. THESE TRAITS, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, ARE NOT COMMON. From there, 20% of physical and mental capacity. If equally matched in those aspects, then maybe 10% technique will make a difference.

    – The "best style" debate is driven by fear and anxiety. It's an alchemist's quest for the philosopher's stone and the elixir of immortality – none of which exist in the real world. Then this debate turns religious, somehow, with anxious, fearful hardcore believers trying to discourage another chunk of the very few people who practice martial arts (a tiny fraction of the population) to abandon their art and join the MMA bandwagon. The only constant in the thousands of possible real-life self defense scenarios is YOU. Always YOU. The inescapable YOU. Your style, your belts, your resistance training will only help you so far as to how tough, courageous and determined to survive they will have made YOU.

    Tell me, who, in their sane mind, would respond to an attacker "euh, could you wait a few years so that I have time to learn BJJ or Muay Thai, then come back?"

    – The "best style" debate drapes itself in the "quest for truth" but it's essentially religious intolerance on both sides of the fence (history is littered with the dead bodies of people who died because someone had finally found the truth).

    – Time is the most precious resource in the Universe. It can neither be renewed nor replaced. So, tell me then: what is the point of putting all of your efforts in finding the "magical formula" that, somehow, would make you invincible "in the street". What if you're a Muay Thai champion getting shot and killed in a parking lot by a low-level scum that has never been charged with the murder (Alex Gong, 2003). Nothing in this Universe can make you invincible. Now, a question: what is the point of training countless hours worrying about STREET SCUM all the time? I'm telling you, if you waste your precious life time worrying about them, then they have already won over you, intimidating you into surrendering your life time to them, which is the same thing as handing over your money but without a fight.

    – Like you, I believe that realistic training should be part of any martial arts training, mostly for integrity reasons. But I would never tell Aikido or Wing Chun practitioners that they can't defend themselves BECAUSE OF THEIR TRAINING. These may not be the best training methods in the world, but it's still training. And you know why I believe that realistic sparring should be practiced in martial arts? Not for the street, but as an important part of building your courage and your determination (and, importantly, control the ego-inflation that comes with any quest for power, which martial arts essentially are).

    – Like the masters of old, I believe that martial arts are a discipline of self cultivation. I also believe that MMA have the potential to push the self cultivation thing even further. In a sense, they are a form of revolution. But right now, there sole purpose seems to be a means of providing entertainment to "Romans" who don't train, who see them as a means to put some blood into their otherwise boring life, and of filling Dana White's pockets with money.

    – Most people don't do martial arts. Most people who are faced with life threatening situations – and survive – don't do martial arts. Most people who do martial arts will never be in a self defense situation. And for the tiny few who will be, a sound judgment and a fierce will to survive will be more useful than style and technique. So how about this: let people who do Wing Chun, or Kung Fu, or Karate, or Aikido, enjoy their art and their life. I'm currently recovering from heart surgery. This is the type of life challenges we WILL ALL FACE at some point. I want to get back into martial arts (and yes, BJJ is on the list). Not out of fear of street scum, but as my personal stand in the fight for life. I WILL EVENTUALLY LOSE THAT FIGHT. But my goal is to fight well, be happy, be as generous as I can and, if possible, make the world around me a better place.

    If there's any "truth" in this training, then this it for me.

  6. Sochin says:

    You can save yourself 20 years of training by buying a hunting knife. You can be a black belt in bjj and you'll still get owned by someone holding a knife. Or a black belt in karate (I am one) and you will still find 10 million people better or stronger than you. There is self-defense but there isn't a silver bullet.

    Look, martial arts is a great hobby. But once you go down that rabbit hole of finding the ultimate self-defense style you will be pitting yourself against some really really mean and capable people. The world is full of people willing and able to pull a gun or knife out and hit you. You can train for 10 years in MMA and I dare you to go down to your local red light district and pick a fight.

    You look like a nice kid. You can train your bjj and krav maga and whatever but you will never have the psychopathy to kill or maim anyone without remorse.

    And that is what "Do" is about. The path to learning to be better than yourself, being a part of a worldwide community and enjoying life doing something you love. Measuring Aikido against MMA against some hoodlum won't get you the results you crave. And you don't want to spend thousands of hours preparing for the eventual fight you might never (want) to get into.

    Don't look for Aikido flaws, look for its strengths. God speed on your Martial Arts Journey.

  7. Blahblah blah some channel says:

    I love how 90% of the people in the comments have been attacked with knives, guns and fireballs but somehow came out unscathed thanks to Martial Arts! LOL….

    If your goal is to learn to defend yourself, martial arts is probably the worst way to achieve that goal. Unless you are in law enforcement, security, or have a genuine interest, martial arts are a complete waste of time. There are better ways to get in shape, develop self discipline and whatever other bullshit reason people give for learning martial arts.

  8. Vardas pavarde says:

    actual khyoihushin is full contact my coche beat my gut to take punch and in khyoikushin karate they go full contact ant thise movments statick movments gives you bettee cordinaition and my coche personaly start from a traditional movments and later real live varaition which compliment eache other

  9. Douglas Hass says:

    I don't know, situational awareness is always a term thrown around, fighting in general usually goes to the aggressive one on top, sometimes luck. If being attacked and you happen to have a 2×4 to sling up against the aggressors head, not always convenient.

  10. xon tyr says:

    He is %100 right. It needs extreme pressure testing. In a hard and fast karate fight, you dont punch or block with perfect form. Its messy and aggressive. I dont know if it's about having clean etiquette that they expect you to look pretty when punching, but it does falter when something real comes around. I trained in karate, than later went to kickboxing and sambo. Both leave karate in the dust when it comes to technique and realism obviously. People really need to study a grappling art if they didnt wrestle in high school. You want to end a fight with striking, but the reality is that it is very easy to get into a grappling situation. Especially if your fighting at night and dont habe great target selection. Learning to clinch is great also. Now, the thing about grappling is that, in a street fight, it should only be used to the point where you don't have tongrapple anymore, or if its life or death potentially. You cant go breaking someones arm, or even choking them out legally just because they chose to get in a fight with you. I'm my city, if you interfere with someones breathing or blood going to there head in a fight, your getting in serious trouble if it's only punches being thrown to begin with. Now if they had a knife or weapon to begin with, than that's different. Than yes, grappling is great. Plus, wrestling on the ground with someone is foolish, it is a very true thing when you have someone pinned and you think all is well, but than have there friend hit you in the head with a beer mug. Iv had that happen first hand. I use to bounce at a rowdy club when I was younger. So learn grappling to control the situation, and than get out of grappling. It's very useful. Wasting your time getting a kick in a street fight is useless to. A push kick only pushes them away for a second, but if you miss or get grabbed, than your off balance. Stick to punching Nd using some unique hand strikes. So basically, I'm saying learn boxing, but throw some karate hand strikes when u can like palm strikes, hammer fist strikes, and elbows. Knees are a waste of time to unless you get them in the head. This is regarding an aggressive large street fighter that knows how to fight with aggression. When your in a fight with someone like that, your going back to the 2 most basic European combat sports. Aggressive and realistic boxing and wrestling.

  11. Battlehub says:

    During my experience in the Dojo I've met persons who shied away from actual full contact training. At a point, our class started to lose members. Our sensei had to split the class, the persons who wanted to actually train and the persons who just wanted to learn (believe it or not, there is a divide). He then had to visit each of the persons who left and make them aware of the changes. All of them came back and continued to participate. I love our full contact training. We only held back a little when striking to the head. Persons who visited and saw us during a session were amazed by the training we endured. Full contact was only on Fridays, only when we had an upcoming tournament, we would do it multiple times that week.
    I think he suffered from not being able to control his adrenaline. If he actually participated in tournaments, he would be used to controlling his fight or flight response and would have adapted better to situations that required him to use his skills. Besides the first thing you are taught in Martial arts class is, "if you can avoid the situation, avoid it. If they ask for your money or phone just give it to them. Only if you have no other choice but to fight, then you fight; your safety comes first".

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