Thrusting Lance – Kenpo knife defense technique for a front knife thrust in a defensive posture



Self Defense Techniques: In this episode Mr James of Charm City Karate demonstrates Thrusting Lance, which is a Kenpo self defense technique for a front …

11 thoughts on “Thrusting Lance – Kenpo knife defense technique for a front knife thrust in a defensive posture

  1. JonBelcherKenpo says:

    Sir, I like the way you've detailed the hands in the initial block / strike / wrist lock & disarm and agree throwing the knife away at the end is a bad idea. The end I was originally shown maintains posession of the knife. What you've done was a "what if"…what if you drop the knife while disarming the attacker. As a comparison, look at the way it's shown by Mohamad Tabatabi in the Panther DVD Kenpo series.

  2. Charm City Karate says:

    True; I spend some time teaching them Filipino knife work as well (offense and defense), and usually they see why I like it better than the Kenpo knife. I think the Kenpo knife techniques would have been better off if they just went for an immediate disarm and then hit; their flaw is mostly trying to do something *with* the knife.

  3. Charm City Karate says:

    I agree, throwing the knife if goofy, so is jumping to kick someone in the middle of a fight; but it's what the technique says. Students learn it for the test, and I explain why I think it's bad as they learn it.

  4. Aegis says:

    I don't have videos of my techniques, so I can't. However, to improve this technique it would make more sense to use both hands to grab the knife arm immediately rather than just one. If this is impractical for whatever reason, then the same side grip rather than cross-arm will be more structurally sound and won't have quite the same weakness against a simple inwards turn.

  5. Aegis says:

    You've mentioned elsewhere about teaching concepts rather than specific techniques. I'd agree with that, but your concepts are dangerously flawed in this technique. Control is seriously lacking; the stepping in and turning is ill-advised because the opponent is still on balance and has a free hand, and the lack of any real barrier between the blade and your vital organs gives no redundancy for when your single-hand grip inevitably fails to control the knife arm.

  6. Aegis says:

    Sorry, I don't buy that answer. The "ideal" technique is the one which works. You shouldn't have a structurally poor technique taught at any stage when dealing with something as dangerous as knife work. If you drill inefficient techniques and justify it because it's an "ideal" scenario, that technique is the same one that will come out during a real attack, and in this technique's case that could easily get a student killed because it is so easily neutralised.

  7. Charm City Karate says:

    As I think I've mentioned, this is curriculum designed for "ideal" situation; later the student gets introduced to "what ifs"; later still they learn to improvise. I agree with your statement about limiting his movement, and those things are typically covered in class. Thanks for paying attention!

  8. Aegis says:

    This is awful. During that block and grab, the knife attacker would only have to rotate his arm by about 45 degrees to make your grip ineffective, which opens up your stomach and groin as targets for easy cutting. At that point you might as well not have bothered blocking in the first place.

    When dealing with a knife you need to be closing down their possible movement immediately, especially bearing in mind simple twists or pulls that come naturally to an attacker.

    Try it with the arm twist.

  9. Charm City Karate says:

    You Krav guys are funny. Because you have only the "martial" you don't get the "art". As I explained in the intro to knife techniques video, these are not the way to fight against knives, they are concepts; combat against knives is an initial defensive move, a disarm, and lots of hitting.
    Everything isn't 5 punches to the head…

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