The #1 Problem With Traditional Martial Arts

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  1. tprnbs says:

    Arguing/discussing "where your hand should be when you fire a punch" is pointless, you need to hit nearest target from where your hands are at the moment (sometimes they will be high sometimes low). If people see form nowadays they think it's only punches, blocks and kicks – WRONG, a block in forms is many times a throw or strike (even basic donward block can be used as a throw), but a shitty teaching methods made people think forms are usless

  2. C.L. Sandridge says:

    When it comes to the martial arts I have practiced over the years, it's mostly been traditional styles. I tend to find traditional arts more interesting for the purposes of self discipline, cultural/historical significance, and I have been taught to mix traditional with modern, so long as what I am using is functional. I've done forms before and I've never really had muscle memory moments where I didn't guard and protect my head or throw punches starting from anywhere other than from the cheek while using proper body mechanics. I think that is perhaps because I have always been trained to recognize the difference between where to keep one's hands in a fight and where they need to be for forms. Although I have worked some basics of boxing into my methods, I have no official boxing experience as far as having a proper instructor/coach. In all honesty, I actually prefer to utilize grappling the most ala Judo and Combat Hapkido. When it comes to striking, my experience is in Wing Chun, Yang Taijiquan, and Taekwondo as well as what I have learned from the striking portion of Combat Hapkido, so I am no authority on boxing. When it comes to Wing Chun and Taijiquan, I have all but discarded the use of the punches taught in those arts because I don't find them useful to me personally. I make mention in all of this to make it clear that I am no authority, but also that if given a proper distinction to a student between form application and functional moves used in a fighting context, then one can practice both forms and functional moves properly. I feel that in certain arts forms are important for many reasons, but I also think that knowing the separation of form and fighting in addition to where they may intersect is important to know.

  3. Wesley Hines says:

    There really is practicality to forms. It just takes the right teacher to teach it. I used to think they were useless too until just recently. Very few traditional martial artists teach kata properly.

  4. Nicholas Kiefer says:

    The problem with 99% of TKD schools in the U.S. is that they don't teach practical applications for their forms. I've seen schools that come up with useless ways to use the movements in the forms when there are so many practical ways to use them but schools don't know them. And they don't drill them. That's why people think forms are useless because they don't understand them. Even punching from the hip/rib cage has a purpose. There is practical applications for that but if you don't teach it then you won't understand when to punch from the hip and when not to.

  5. Texan PlayeR says:

    I do agree that forms are pretty useless in martial arts, but they do have purpose.
    You don't make sentences without knowing how to write letters smoothly.
    Same goes for forms, you don't kick/punch someone or something in training without knowing how to even throw one.
    It has nothing to do with application, but rather precision, it is very important for beginners, without it they might hurt themselves or someone.

  6. David Coscina says:

    Until you study all forms of traditional martial arts you really shouldn't general assertions about forms for all martial arts. You talk like you are an experienced martial artist. How old are you even? I have studied TKD, Wing Chun, Kung Fu, BJJ, Goju Ryu and most currently Wado Ryu. I'm 48 years old and I don't feel it's my place to make such bold statements like "all schools should get rid of forms". If you don't like TMA stick with MMA and enjoy it. I won't comment anymore on your vids as I find them an exercise in frustration. Good day sir.

  7. Dr Bob says:

    Young man, I doubt you have ever been a real warrior. mebbe you have a good heart I don't know, I just see a silly boy talking about something he knows nothing about. Travel safe

  8. Dr Bob says:

    The ultimate aim of martial art training has nothing to do with fighting but with development of the character. Funakoshi Gichin. Have you ever considered this, young man with so much to say?

  9. Zack Leitzel says:

    I seriously don't know why this guy hates forms so much…maybe he only went to bs "traditional" (as he calls the) schools. Every move in a form should have a practical application and if the instructor does not make that clear then that is the instructor's fault. Yes, you will never do a form in a fight and the moves wont be exactly the same but forms are great tools to prepare for fighting and hone your technique

  10. Daniel W says:

    What about preserving the traditional martial arts historical significance through forms? Without forms many martial arts will lose their identity and be nothing more than Korean MMA (TKD) or Japanese MMA (Karate).

    I agree that forms are not the most practical but they are very important for a traditional martial art to have. Yes sometimes a bad habit can be caused by forms but a practical traditional martial arts school should differentiate between a "forms style" punch and a "combat style" punch so bad technique is not caused by practicing forms.

    Would you say forms would be ok if people quit punching from the waist and used a boxing style hand position instead?

  11. conrad artchannel says:

    Forms are nothing more then warm ups for real training. Too many traditional peeps criticize other and become ego maniacs purely from obsessing over katas. If someone obsesses over that type of stuff then they deserve to get there ass kicked.

  12. Dylan McGaw says:

    i train at a wtf taekwondo school and everything you say happens at my school. unfortunately i wont be able to start mauy thai and bjj till I'm 17 because of parents. so for now its just adding kicks to my arsenal.

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