Muti, Stick/Blade/Knife Fighting Martial Art of Haiti

A short film on the art of Muti. An art imported from the Kongo/Angola region of Africa and spread to South America from Haiti.

31 thoughts on “Muti, Stick/Blade/Knife Fighting Martial Art of Haiti

  1. ATACX GYM KENPO says:

    @NeoBaku We wholly agree in this area.It is of the first importance to differentiate our own authentic African martial sciences from all others,and I'm an ardent supportr of this. I don't think I've said anything that would contradict our mutually agreed upon position visavis this matter.I'm saying that the whole of kali is also rooted in African fighting arts,not the other way around.

  2. ProfMyles says:

    @ATACXGYM It s vital that we properly distance authentic African Fighting traditions from any Asian/Oriental or European origins. Regardless of the history of the Phillipines, MUTI is a completely separate KONGO/ANGOLA/MOZAMBIQUEAN/BANTU tradition. Its' history, origins and practice come from the BANTU folk of Central/West Africa. More precisely, MUTI has incorporated fight technique from many African stick and Blade traditions present in Haiti. It has BENIN blade work in it as well…..

  3. ATACX GYM KENPO says:

    @BLACKNINJA1 Or are you saying that–because many of the original inhabitants of the P.I. were little black people whom the Spaniards also referred to as "negritos"–when the Spaniards encountered these people after recently liberating themselves from being dominated by the Moors that the Spaniards also referred to the ISLAMIZED negritos as Moros? And maintained their classification of non-Islamic negritos as "los negritos"?

  4. ATACX GYM KENPO says:

    @BLACKNINJA1 This is a new piece of information to me. As THE GOLDEN AGE OF THE MOORS by Dr. Ivan van Sertima proves,it is indeed true that specifically the term MORO referred to Black Africans who practiced Islam and were a dominant power in the Iberian Peninsula which they renamed Andalusia for centuries. However,I wasn't aware that the term Moro which became Anglicized as "Moors,Blackamoors" etc. somehow became universalized to refer to Muslims period,regardless of race.

  5. ATACX GYM KENPO says:

    @BLACKNINJA1 All respect due my brutha I only just received notification of your response,a full year after you wrote it. I apologize for the tardiness. Keep training hard and excelling,brutha. Respect.

  6. ProfMyles says:

    @shango1963 Well said Shango. The presiding fallacy behind all of the conjecture is "Black inferiority." In other words "THEY are inferior , so they can't possibly have sophisticated martial arts……."

  7. shango1963 says:

    Continued study into this area of African culture should serve to destroy the "notion" that African combatives are little more than diffusions from foreign (Asian/European) cultures.

  8. ATACX GYM KENPO says:

    @NeoBaku I'm thrilled to hear that Mestre defeated practitioners of other disciplines.Is there any objective data verifying this? I'd love to pass that info on to the (far too many) people who've lost the fighting art of capoeira!

  9. ATACX GYM KENPO says:

    @kenshin9518 I too am aware of and have trained in escrima.As an aspiring Ph.d. in African Studies,I am aware that the entire indigenous fighting styles of the phillipines derive from the Moro Moros (the Moors,who are all Black), who are the Black African Muslims who retired there en masse after expulsion from Andalusia (Spain) following centuries of rule which civilized Europe twice (Almohades and the Almoravids).Muti is an offshoot of the African martial science which birthed escrima.

  10. ProfMyles says:

    @ATACXGYM Mestre defeated many boxers during his challenge days(the early Luta Bahiana period) His sequencas are remanants of Capoeira's real fight days. They are designed to combat other Capoeira forms, boxing, wrestling kungfu etc. go to any competent Regional Mestre and Sequencias will be part of the curriculum.~Prof.

  11. ProfMyles says:

    @ATACXGYM This is quite common knowledge. Mestre Bimba developed sequencias as his methodology of teaching his Luta Bahiana. Some of his sequencces were devoted to combating boxers. During his challenge days, Bimba fought with and defeated boxers. He never nncorporated boxing into his Luta, but he studied the sport carefully in order to devise ways of overcoming its strengths. Go to any competent Regional Mestre and sequencias will be taught to you.~Prof.

  12. ATACX GYM KENPO says:

    @NeoBaku I didn't know that Mestre Bimba developed specific sequencias designed to defeat boxers specifically…and I take capoeira (amongst a host of other arts) AND I'm pursuing my Ph.d. in African Studies.Can you let me know where you got that specific gem of info? That would be wonderful to know…

  13. ProfMyles says:

    @sigmacombatsystems No offense taken. I accept your premise as reasonable, essential even. It would seem to me that if one survived a hostile encounter with a boxer, one would definitely create tactics to counter his strengths. Mestre Bimba did this in Brazil. Many of his sequencias are designed to defeat specifically boxers.

  14. ProfMyles says:

    @sigmacombatsystems In recent times when Europeans invaded other peoples territories, they came using rifled weapons, cannon with explosive shot, the repeating Gatling gun(invented to slaughter the Ashantie army of what is now Ghana) and the Congrieve rocket. There was no swashbuckling on their part.

  15. ProfMyles says:

    @sigmacombatsystems Where is the evidence of European sword/stick fighting influencing Chinese Kungfu? This sort of belief is the same fantasy that I have heard before perpetuated by groups attempting to equalize European traditional martial methods with the Orient's and most recently with Africa's

  16. ProfMyles says:

    @NeoBaku Where is the evidence of European sword/stick fighting influencing Chinese Kungfu? This sort of belief is the same fantasy that I have heard before perpetuated by groups attempting to equalize European traditional martial methods with the Orient's and most recently with Africa's.

  17. ProfMyles says:

    @sigmacombatsystems Worse; much much worse indeed!
    You seem to have concluded as fact that wherever indigenous peoples encountered European invaders, the sword fencing or stick fighting of the European influenced the technique of the defender.

  18. ProfMyles says:

    @sigmacombatsystems Muti owes nothing to European fencing. Muti is a mixture of many African sword systems and purely stick systems.Muti is African fencing in whole.

  19. ProfMyles says:

    Thank you BlackNinja. I'm glad you enjoyed the vid. You are absolutely correct. Simon Bolivars' 'Black Troops' were infact HAITIAN MARINES sent to aid him by Haitian president Petion after the Spanish had defeated him TWICE and he fled to Haiti for help. Bolivar had a rival for the Throne of South America BTW he was a Black Venezuelan General. Bolivar tried to have him murdered because of hs great popularity. He fled to Guyana and was never captured.

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