Knife Combat Techniques
Longsword and Messer terminology
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More messer context. Despite some technical difficulties (bloody camera -_-), I think this should interest those who want to know a bit more of the ‘why’ of …
More messer context. Despite some technical difficulties (bloody camera -_-), I think this should interest those who want to know a bit more of the ‘why’ of …
This is really cool stuff. I've been working through Jess Finley's translation of Jobs Von Württemberg's Messer lately and I love seeing how the etymology of the art comes together from different sources. Please keep doing these kinds of videos; they're awesome!
The etymology you give for leger is interesting from the standpoint of I:33's "obsessio".
Did you think we would notice the change of shirts? Great video, all the same!!! Blooper real is hilarious!
Seems bang on with my experience. I think there's another aspect other than just product differentiation between the longsword system. I think it may be that he wanted to make a distinction in naming convention to make it easier to distinguish Messer fencing from Longsword fencing, so if someone is familiar with both, they can know that Stier is talking about Messer fencing without having to say something like "Messer Pflug". It may have been an effort to build a culture around organized fencing with Langesmesser in a more structured way, very much like Liechtenauer did for fencing with longsword.
According to the subtitles, Nuremberg is called Nerdbeck, and guys, I think I found ny true home
3:30 gotta love that one guy taking a dump before the camp
Love this, Oscar! Bogen could also refer to a kind of noose trap, where a branch is "bowed" over and in springing up ensnares the animal (though the fiddlebow 1.33 connection is hard to ignore.) More eber and Stier thoughts to come.
Im excited to hear more about your book!!!!!!
I'd be very interested in a Lechuckner book, are you imagining some sort of primer or interpretational piece?
I like the idea that Leckuchner alters his terminology to suit an urban audience, and of course not all the changes were necessarily done for the same reason. Another possibility, I do think that some terms (Eber being a good example) aren't necessarily changes from the longsword terms, but are alternative or older terms from the oral traditions that were codified by Ringeck et al. I think it's likely that there were more variations to the so-called Liechtenauer tradition than what's been preserved and passed down to us, and Leckuchner is (in part) referring to these alternative forms.
Also, excellent demonstration of hunting the prey animal at the end.