Knife vs Unarmed Training Freeform

This is part 1 of a one-on-one lesson in which we worked on knife fighting. I won’t go into too much explanation, as this is just to show some of this kind of work, …

24 thoughts on “Knife vs Unarmed Training Freeform

  1. Gregory Foresi says:

    This is some really great stuff. I love the technical proficiency and knowledge of source material.

    I would, however, like to see this paired with full-energy sparring with practice weapons and possibly protective gear, to gauge the effectiveness of a real-world, savage attack.

  2. Jetman123 says:

    Medieval europeans trained in these fighting systems with the assumption that you had been attacked from surprise, with no time to deploy your own knife, and that you had to parry and grapple with the opponent or die. The worst case scenario, in other words. Gotta get that knife away from him or you're going to die painfully in some back alleyway.

    Once I had the knife, I'd probably throw it away and run, realistically speaking, and chances are, they would too. 😀

  3. Mason Crisp says:

    here's a suggestion: How about some more freeplay vids like this but with either swords (which i think would be very interesting as I have never seen any videos like that) or unarmed. So just controlled sparring in this way using the medieval wrestling/systema stuff etc. That'd be awesome!

  4. SavageInsight says:

    @ArmeAntica Agreed, especially considering people grab weapons out of fear and anger than necessity these days. We can hit our closest neighbor with a squirt gun in a lot of places, and most people just want to get on with their lives, with a little help sometimes and good company, giving room for friends.
    We don't live so far apart we need to be our own guards.
    So better to be trained and able to end a fight harmlessly than to hurt, kill or die from fear or anger.

  5. Josh Oakley says:

    @ArmeAntica Fair enough on the resistance bit, but it seemed like after the initial resistance, you two stay there, arm extended for eachother. Don't get me wrong, it was good overall. As far as kicking the knife hand, keep in mind the hand is not likely to stay in one place. If it moves, and ity likely will, You could very well end up kicking the knife… or having your calf cut.

  6. Josh Oakley says:

    Looks okay. The main thing that I would recommend to add more realism is that the attacker continue to resist throught the technique, regardless of the speed it is being done. Also, kicking a knife is not the best of ideas.

  7. seadawg93 says:

    @ArmeAntica My two cents (which are probably worth less than that) is that you can totally catch the arm of a full speed knife attack, but only sometimes. I've heard this from both Marc Macyoung and Bruce Frantzis, grabs and joint locks will sometimes be right there for the taking and other times not be there at all.

  8. Thomas Schmidgen says:

    The problem is that grabbing or try to lockthe arm or wrist, which carries the knife works only when the speed is low. If you watch some videos on youtube espacially those of Paul Vunak, one will see that there is no defence against a slash with a knife except a strike to the wrist or arm that holds the knife or you deflect the incoming arm and attack your oppenent with your other arm simultanesly.

  9. JCLeSinge says:

    @ArmeAntica: Most martial arts classes insist that you suppress the instinct to tense when someone puts on a lock; the upshot is that the technique works in training, but fails in a real situation where the opponent resists.

    It is indeed better for us, though; if you come up against another martial artist, you can use his training against him. The same instructor again showed me that too; if skill and speed can beat strength, knowledge and cunning can beat skill.

  10. JCLeSinge says:

    @ArmeAntica: Cheers; I've been doing martial arts for quite some time. Some styles insist on grabbing hard, but in practice that means the opponent tenses up; you either get the lock spot-on or you miss it completely. You're absolutely right about not getting fixated; the instructor who showed me how to apply locks without grabbing used to say "Cultivate a sense of changing your mind."

  11. Robert Molin says:

    @ArmeAntica Yes we do. I for one really like that form of training. Very good to get the awareness level up to. Have done both 1 on 2 with one person in the middle and two opponents (one in front and one behind) that attacks one at the time. The other one is two opponents who tries to kill/hit a third person. Lots of fun.

  12. Robert Molin says:

    @ArmeAntica I think you really makes a point there. We have train hard physical training at our school but this would be great to get that brain exercise that also takes a lot of energy. And as you said, it's important to leave the prestige outside the training and just keep going or you will never ever learn something new, I think.

  13. Robert Molin says:

    Wonderful. Nice to see some flow and just continuous freeform action. I'll try to take that into longsword training. I've rediscovered slow sparring and this would be a great compliment to that.
    Thanks for sharing

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