Different Grip Technique feat. former Israeli Special Forces

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43 thoughts on “Different Grip Technique feat. former Israeli Special Forces

  1. Chris Provo says:

    Dude has triple jointed Brett Favre hands . Most of us humans, not all dont have 5 and 1/2 inch fingers. I wish my fingers could do Judo. Bravo Brother. That's impressive.

  2. Youtube person says:

    I was taught to not cross my thumbs and use the more traditional grip he demonstrated with my off hand thumb resting on the slide. I'll ask my instructor about this, he's a swat guy

  3. Tom Bailey says:

    This grip is exactly how I learned to grip/hold my weapon. I rarely see it anymore so this is a great short vid on a different grip that is highly effective. Of course, for those who have joint issues like arthritis, this likely won't be a great grip but, otherwise, I am glad to see this video so THANK YOU for putting it up.

  4. John Doe says:

    By the way, you can Google that scene on YouTube if you don't know what I talking about.

    It's a 0:13 second clip dubbed "Die Hard Thanks For The Advice"…..type YouTube after that and it will pop up!

    Old school don't need any advice "jerkweeds"……

    John

  5. John Doe says:

    That's not how John Doe holds a pistol. I use the trigger guard serrated notch for my supporting hand index finger to hook. You can see this style in Die Hard 1 when Bruce offs the terrorist from underneath the table and chants "thanks for the advice" when his he is empty. That was 1988 for all you youngsters out there. I was shooting that way long before that even. This modern "thumbs forward grip" is mallninja tactitard bullshit. You induce malfunctions that way because the manufacturers never intended your supporting hand thumb to be flush up against the frame and slide interfering with the slide stop, magazine release, decocker and hitting the slide slowing it's cycle speed down. Whoever dreamed this shit up should be booed off the stage. You know, that is why the gun manufacturers put that hook in the trigger guard and serrated it on many pistols to begin with…..who would have ever thought……DUH!!

    John
    USMC Ret.

  6. Shotbytim says:

    This grip technique is not new. It was widely taught in the '70s and '80s. I was around when the thumbs forward technique was introduced so I don't have to theorize on what it's advantage is. I actually know who did it first and why. It's very simple. When Ross Seyfried fired a 1911 racegun with the older, thumbs down grip, he would often accidentally drop his magazine. There it is. The thumbs forward grip was one man's solution to unwanted contact with controls. As a matter of fact, early on, the thumbs were actually pointed up to avoid contact with the safety and slide stop. If you have a problem with accidentally hitting the slide stop or safety, try thumbs down. It may work for you. Especially with Walther's paddle style mag release. Accidental actuation isn't an issue with those. Even with the regular button style, if you don't have Ross's hand shape, there may not be any reason to use the slightly weaker new, fashionable "proper" grip.

  7. Adam A. Schitt says:

    Thanks for the vid. I carry a semi-gucci'd Sig P220, but most of my training has been on revolvers, and decades ago. (I'm old.) Those revolver grip ways don't xfer so well to auto's. (Snicker.) But the reverse I don't think to be true. I plan on training myself for a universal approach. Nothing harder than revising old, well learned ways. Thank your IDF friend.

  8. War Fel says:

    It's pretty much the old thumbs over revolver grip which I do use on my pistols sometimes but the thumbs forward grip tends to be more comfortable for longer range sessions. My accuracy is the same with either grip.

  9. J. Luis says:

    Grip: well is a nice topic when you are being shot at somehow is not that important.
    Get the other guy with Rock, Dirt, Knife, etc..
    Don't you dare die for your country, make the other S.O.B. die for his. Gen.George Patton.

  10. Sigelitedark says:

    Finally got a thumbs forward grip ingrained into muscle memory for consistent presentations, so the last thing I need to do is change to something new though I did try this out.

  11. Ozark Ed says:

    All I can say is it's not for a guy with arthritis in his thumbs, very painful on my thumb joints. I do, however, very much appreciate exposure to alternative methods.

  12. Stephen Brannan says:

    I mean no offence by this comment. That being said, I have watched the video multiple times and have been experimenting with this grip for the past hour using the same gun shown in the video, The FN 509. It appears to be an uncomfortable modification to a Weaver Grip that makes the joints in the support hand's thumb experience pain from being torqued to the side. I also noticed that in order to keep the support hand's thumb on top of the gun hand's thumb as shown in the video, the thumbs have to counteract each other; otherwise the gun hand's thumb slips downward and the support hand's thumb slips forward. This grip does not provide better control of the gun for either shooting or to prevent a gun grab. It is a bad technique all-around. I have shot with a Weaver Grip for 10 years and a Stacked Thumbs Grip for over 19 years, and can say with ease that either one of them are a better choice over this one. I have trained with multiple individuals who are either active duty or retired from both the Navy SEALS and Delta Force and can testify that none of them used this grip technique, and they're all very well versed in the realm of combat. Most of them, especially the middle aged crowd, use The Stacked Thumbs grip. I also can't find much on the web supporting this grip technique.

  13. William Sack says:

    $50 says if this dude (who looks massive, strong, and capable) practiced a proper thumbs forward grip for 20 minutes, his shooting would get demonstrably better. Like shooting specific drills, on the clock, better. When even the new and unpracticed method out performs the long-practiced one, thats what we call a clue. . .

  14. Curt White says:

    Good video, Imri did a good job of describing the grip, how to establish it, why it works and what the benefits are. Not really sure what I think though, I'll have to try it. I would definitely like to try to disarm that grip. I'm curious whether it makes that significant a difference.

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