Bringing a Gun to a Knife Fight with Steve Tarani

Join leading subject matter expert Steve Tarani as he guides you step-by-step through this easy-to-follow tutorial on how to defeat a “knife fight” with a firearm.

29 thoughts on “Bringing a Gun to a Knife Fight with Steve Tarani

  1. Flono McFlooneyloo says:

    Because people get enamored by the overwhelming lethality, or the firepower (at a distance) of projectile weapon, such as a handgun or an AR or shotgun, they forget the very basic lessons learned in something like basic sword fighting.

    You MUST learn and apply the concepts of tempo, time, measure and distance. If the guy in the first example had faded back and/or learned an effective J-hook, the guy with the knife (concealed) would not have trumped his projectile weapon. The 'model' with the gun should not have bought into the 'stand here muscles tensed at 3 foot reflex gap range' paradigm, and when the timer started, done a quick fade back and J-hook and he'd have obliterated the author's premise.

    Just because you have BIG power does not mean you can discount or forget or fail to consider BASIC close combat rules. What makes a projectile weapon work? Distance, time, and cover. So making a YT saying that 'Mr Stabby' beats him is glossing over all that and giving a FALSE representation, leading to false recommendations and false conclusions. The truth is already known.

    Projectile weapons work at a distance, can nullify fighting measure of close combat, can be employed from cover and as we know from modern air-to-air combat, or very long distance snipers, you can already be killed before you can detect the threat.

  2. All Aspects says:

    Would you rather be cut on the arm or for the knife to come through and hot your face, neck or heart? If you see that knife coming for you there is no reason way on Earth to retract it back to your torso – unless you wanna die….
    There is also zero movement in this video? – close with or move off axis. Never back pedal or stay fixed in position.

  3. Joe Cannabyte says:

    I firmly believe in my abilities to use a knife if I see someone going for their gun within h2h combat distance (5 feet or lower, I'd not want to risk above 10 feet unless I had no choice, I Doubt anyone else here would, either). Plus if you pull even from a crossdraw , from the hip and firing you can negate even more time.

    There are just so many things that can go wrong. In the training we do with varying knife sizes you have people charging at you and everything from retention to aversion to even drawing in time-It's really crazy and was very eye-opening for me when my dad (a combat specialist) and the trainers at my gym started showing basically a lot of the same stuff here.

  4. Patrick Griffith says:

    If i was in a hostile environment my gun would already be ready. Also how would you be that close already to use a knife. All you need to do to counter these moves is step back and fire until the person with the knife is dead. The only real advantage of a knife against a gun would be silence and if they dont know where you are.

  5. leovongrimm says:

    headshots in practice videos as instructional self defence videos sorta make you come off as a bad human being especaily if your saying 2 shots is standard defence. i mean really?… now on to more pressing matters. yes chuck norris could probably wail on us with a sub… i feel as if that should be some kind of meme… or gif =D

  6. TacticalChaos360 says:

    To see a threat, acknowledge the threat, assess the situations and possible interference (pedestrians, backstops, vehicles, etc) draw your weapon, and fire? Seriously? What statistics or data do you have to back that up?

  7. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky actually under the adrenaline everything is sped up, what SLOWS the response time is the reactions, ex the OS! response, and the fine motor skills required to do whatever it is you intend to do. Time taken into consideration is also the time taken to correct the incorrect reaction. But I think we are on the same page, or at least close to it.

  8. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky PG4 ESPECIALLY when adrenaline is released into the body. That first shot MAY/MIGHT land on the target, BUT it probably isnt going to be where you were actually intending to shoot; there are so many factors to consider. Am I making sense? I know I can be long winded or long typed…

  9. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky PG3 and has the t-shirt will probably flinch less or not at all because his body is used to that stress. He has been constantly trained and he has already been tested. So his reaction might actually be "POW". But, in any case, there is a bit of an OSF and the difference between that trained individual and the rest of us is that his training helps negate the lag time. The target has still moved, the sights still need to be aligned. Its not as simple as going "click"

  10. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky PG2 also if you look at the videos where the guy without the gun charges the guy with the gun, especially when the distance is close or the guy with gun is NOT behind cover, you will see the guy with the gun (a lot of times a cop) flinch backwards. That is a person who received training not to flinch, but that "not flinching" is a perishable skill; most people have never been trained for it. But that all comes with experience; a war veteran who has been there and done that

  11. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky PG1 its called the "OH SH*T!" factor. When you have a gun aimed at someone you expect compliance. When the opposite of what you expect, in this case guy not afraid of guy with gun, happens then that factor happens. The man with the gun is reacting to the other guys ACTIONS. So whatever the man with the gun does, he is behind the curve. If he is not trained to act a certain way, then he will instinctively react with a defensive posture vs an aggressive one.

  12. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky pg2 also that it takes longer than .2 sec to respond to the stimuli, but you also have to consider the muscle movements required to DESIRABLY react to stimuli. If you have to wait for a button to turn green before you click it, that simple motor function should only take about .2 seconds. BUT if it requires a draw, flash site picture and controlled trigger press, then it changes. Same to say with a knife draw or simply a punch. Make sense?

  13. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky correct. In the span of .2 second the stimulus is recognized. Through extensive training it can be lowered. The more complicated the response or the more body movements required the slower the reaction time will be, naturally. When the pressure is on, FINE motor skills hamper. Getting hit with a pistol round the survivability is still about 85%; dome shots out the holster are very very rare, with even trained "gun fighters" having a 30%+/- success rate w/in 5 meters.

  14. grtwhtbnr says:

    @sneaeky incorrect. Stimulus is received at about 0.2 sec, processing and reaction take about 1 sec, 0.8 if youre fast/trained and 0.5 +/- if you are constantly training at a grade above professional. During that time the threat is closing in, you may press but your target and sights will be in different places. Drawn and sights aligned our guy 2 shots in 0.85 at 5 yd target, unholster w/ two on target 1.14-1.2 w/ our hobbyist group. We arent SEALS, but we arent avg joe either…

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